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"The phenomena of which he is iconic is one that we have written out, edited out of our nation. When I met her, ~1995, I started asking her questions about the war, as I thought she was a fabulous resource of information. History is just one awful thing after another. Within the EU the two most common ages of consent are 14 and 15 (if Ive done my counting correctly), though in some but not all cases thats with additional restrictions on permissible age gaps. By this logic, we ought to sue the African American community. As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. So this race baiter can try his guilt trip on someone else. it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them Then, in October, came a breakthrough. The world has seen more slavery since its abolition than before. Its a shame Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. MBE: The problem with the UK paying reparations is that people like Olusoga would have to pay their share of the greatly increased taxes. He saw how enslaved people who had risen up were burnt to death, castrated or mutilated, punishments he regarded as merited. Both of these need proof. That may have caused more violence. Olusoga, who is half-Nigerian, traces this focus to his mother telling him when he was a child that Nigerian soldiers served in World War II. Theres no point pretending Europeans who profited from either the transatlantic slave trade or the use of slave labour in the Americas were somehow doing a favour to the slaves involved. Guess wed have to print it. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. In the system that made Sloane wealthy, black women sought out herbs, plant species that he carefully identified and categorised, and used them to induce abortions, determined as many were not to bring into the world children who would be born items of property and destined to live short, brutalised lives. Maybe someone should advise him to button his lip before he stirs up something he may not like. Now Im trying to imagine just what the strongest case for reparations might be, but even in this thought experiment its hard to see what the eligibility criteria for receiving payment should be, what sum should be due, how much proof is required of eligibility not everyone will have a good set of family records etc. Everyone was. Grew up in Quedlinburg. arguments are pretty weak since relying on a doctrine of virtues of the fathers risks implicitly accepting sins of the fathers.. Whoever has the upper-hand in power political, cultural, economic, military or whatever other form is decisive at that moment. Different people can argue the toss from different viewpoints and perspectives but in many ways their arguments pass each other like ships in the night, because they havent all got nobodys got an absolute frame of reference to judge things with respect to. She had no interest in esoteric discussions of the war. The publication in 1852 of Uncle Toms Cabin, by the American abolitionist Harriet Beecher Stowe, swelled national sympathy for the plight of black slaves. His dad met his mom at the city's university in the 1960s. If you had spare cash or could borrow, investment in slavery was a sure winner, never mind slave rebellions or hurricanes that destroyed cane fields. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". This is indeed tu quoque. I imagine few do. is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on.. The historian tells Michael Segalov about getting up early, reading George Orwell, taking his dog George for a walk, playing his guitar Not a big fan of the odd human sacrifice Im afraid, even though I might just be of very partial Scandinavian descent myself. (Im just presenting the case here in reality there are obviously some big questions about the logic of Nuremberg etc, just as there are questions about how judges in Common Law occasionally summon up things as if they had always and forever been a part of the Law, albeit previously unrecorded, rather than something the judge just made up.). Will Britain change? Forbes magazine's extraordinarily arrogant contributor Tim Worstall Jeremy Corbyn. Like I need to hand my cash to the next lass of Rus descent I see, lest she remind me of some unlucky slave-girl that may or may not have perished at the hands of my maybe-ancestors? Two men managed to escape and were rescued, but not before my great, great, grandfather was beaten, starved and worked to death, his body thrown into the jungle for the animals and insects to dispose of. But it is also likely that disease played a role. I could just as well feel something else entirely, and Im sceptical of all approaches to impose a supposedly universal, timeless or even just coherent, thats a challenge in itself ethical system. However, it applies to at least 80% of Americans. Not sure theyd do that with modern sensibilities mind you. * the legal institution and pretty much the practice David Olusoga, introduces his book Black and British, an exploration of the relationship between the British Isles and the people of Africa. I still find arguing the toss, or watching others doing so, interesting partly because it shows how the viewpoints are divergent, how many arguments are self-interested, what social, cultural and economic forces are at work behind it all. "They look to history not just for inspiration and comfort, not just for heroes and for glorious chapters; they look for history expecting to find challenging stories, painful stories, dark truths, villains as well as heroes. And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? And this of course neatly addresses MBEs arguments. Women, denied a meaningful role in politics, formed their own organisations, writing tracts, pamphlets and poems, gathering signatures for petitions and fundraising: At certain times and in certain places they were the engine room of the movement.. So he calls himself a Geordie. In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. I am not so sure about that although it is another argument. Quite possibly slave-raiding Gaels before that. Olusogas stated purpose is to argue that black British history is not about migration and settlement, whether of black servants in the 18th century or black workers in the Windrush era. There is no reason to think one system was more or less brutal than the other. Yet American slave-produced raw cotton continued to feed the 4,500 mills of Lancashire. 1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat. Britain was happy to force the Bevan Boys down coal mines. If there were African states with legal continuity to those political entities which established and encouraged the African slave markets, they would be on the hook too, but theres a discontinuity due to colonialism and besides, everyone knows to sue the rich guy not the poor guy. Exactly, bis. If more African-Americans started to vote Republican and the Democrats felt they needed something radical to boost their offer, and had enough support from liberal whites and other groups to risk further losses among blue-collar whites, for example. I am of Ulster Scot heritage, who were originally John Knoxs Cumberland Presbyterians, VERY MUCH against slavery. Why are these characterizations needed? If slavery really mattered theyd be campaigning for reparations from the blacks and arabs/moslems who were doing it long before the white man arrived in Africa and was far more devastating. Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. Maybe Europeans did increase demand. I have a peeve about the BBC genealogical show Who do you think you are? which I dont know whether has been inflected upon the Left Pond. Looking at what happened in Haiti or Jamaica or chunks of Latin America, I dont find either well, could have been much worse or what do you expect, Early Modern West Europeans, how could they have known better? to be particularly convincing responses. How does it benefit anyone to make an issue about particular events? She wasnt interested in my academic pursuit. They may have been turning people they would have killed into a profitable commodity. Olusoga brilliantly reveals such contradictions in British society. Britain's role in the transatlantic slave trade is part of the national curriculum, although it is not statutory. We do not know enough to be sure. By David Dabydeen (Photo By Alamy) Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. You may concede a point here, a point there. And yet Africans and West Indians were banned from the victory parade in 1919. The UK, Norway, Benelux, Spain, Malta and Switzerland are, I believe, the only western European countries to set it at 16. The reason why Equiano is not a national name is because slavery is not a part of the history that we teach when it should be because I don't think you can understand the 18th century in particular but also the 19th century without reference to slavery.". Although I would expect the Germans, and perhaps even the Japanese, to be happy they lost the war. BLM is after political or financial advantages because of slavery. Would probably have taken your suggestion as a challenge. Olusoga poses as an objective historian and says he is not there to bring comfort to people. You lost those two. The arguments do you want to get shaken down for several trillion?. His autobiography, The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, details how he was sold into slavery aged 11, his experience of travelling the world as slave to a Royal Navy officer - who renamed him Gustavus Vassa - and how he bought his freedom from his final master, an English merchant in Montserrat. Shipwrecked off the coast of Africa, he, and other survivors, were taken by an African tribe as captives. many African tribes kept slaves. They are stupid false for America. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. In the 15th and 16th centuries, thousands of pounds of gold were shipped to Europe. That assumes an increase in demand. But maybe they did not. Peter Olusoga. My first reaction, years and years ago, was thats awful. Thats fine, BraveFart. To at least 80 % of Americans not there to bring comfort to people show who do you think are! 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