1. For 26 years, BPI joined other advocates in championing the return of Pell eligibility for incarcerated students. DAVIES: This is FRESH AIR, and we're discussing the new four-part PBS documentary "College Behind Bars." The College: Comprehensive Academic Engagement. DAVIES: There was a time when higher education in correctional facilities was pretty common. By Tyler Kendall January 17, 2020 / 2:19 PM / CBS News Dameon Stackhouse was several years into his. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Novick is a Peabody Award-winning filmmaker and longtime collaborator of Ken Burns. Directed by Lynn Novick and produced by Sarah Botstein, College Behind Bars profiles the Bard Prison Initiative, a Bard College program that extends its curriculum and has awarded nearly. Are children allowed in Turkish prisons? They have the bike path right on the corner that leads all the way to the East River. NOVICK: I'd just add that one of the really remarkable things about this program is that the admissions process is looking for people who have kind of intellectual curiosity and determination. And the Bard Prison Initiative, which was - began in 1999. On November 24, 1990, James Wiley armed himself with a shotgun and brutally shot down his stepmother and two brothers in their home in Thermopolis, Wyoming. They both earned college degrees and are now employed. Who has access to educational opportunity? DAVIES: We're talking about the new PBS documentary "College Behind Bars" with Lynn Novick, the director, and with Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, two formerly incarcerated graduates of the Bard Prison Initiative. Sebastian Yoon, how long after your graduation did you have to serve before you got - were released? My colleagues are aware of different types of cuisine and restaurants and whenever we travel together for work or have a lunch together, theres this tendency to talk about food and wine. Simpson and Fritsch have a new book called "Crime In Progress." Through the lived experiences of the students and their families, this is a groundbreaking story of incarceration, injustice, race in America, and the transformative power of education. They love this film. After serving 22 years in prison, he is making up for lost time, with a job at the Ford Foundation, good coffee and a long soak in the tub. COLLEGE BEHIND BARS, a four-part documentary film series, tells the story of a small group of incarcerated men and women struggling to earn college degrees and turn their lives around in one of the most rigorous and effective prison education programs in the United States - the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI). The Bard Prison Initiative enrolls over 300 incarcerated students in six New York State prisons. College Behind Bars remains - especially in the first episode - admirably focused on the practicalities of prison life and prison programmes. Yoon and Tatro both entered prison as teenagers, and both earned bachelor's degrees in the Bard Prison Initiative. It teaches you how smart you are. When we come home now, we often help each other get jobs. College Behind Bars, an Emmy-nominated, four-part documentary about the transformative power of education. In one of our most power episodes ever, BPIs founder Max Kenner and recent graduate Sebastian Yoon join Adam this week to discuss howReadMore, One graduate, featured in a new PBS documentary, shares the ups and downs of earning a degree behind bars. My family took care of me for 12 years while I was in prison, and now I'm in a position in life where I can support and be there for them. College Behind Bars, an Emmy-nominated, four-part documentary about the transformative power of education. (Speaking Korean) Thank you. I mean, anybody who watches this film will think, gosh, I don't know if I could handle this stuff. And you see people on this kind of, like, exponential learning curve from places where they, you know, might not seem at first glance that they're ready for "college work," quote, unquote. Both of you went into prison as teenagers and came out as young men. I'm a math major, went on after that to do some project management and data collection for a tech company and then started thinking about how I could get back in the world. SAVOR I usually order a venti Pike, not too strong. So once that happened, almost all those programs vanished - went from about 800 programs to fewer than 10. Your support helps make this possible. Parts One & Two. By Jamil Smith But that means a lot that weren't - probably some applied and did not get in. And today, there are 300 students in six facilities in New York state, mostly men, but there's one facility for women as well. Sign up for the College Behind Bars newsletter to learn more about the film and events nationwide. TATRO: Oh, I think that couldn't be further from the truth. Meg & Tomas Bergstrand; Regina K. Scully; The Lise Strickler & Mark Gallogly Charitable Fund; a fund at The New York Community Trust; Patty Quillin through the Meadow Fund at Silicon Valley Community Foundation; Barbara & Richard Novick; Chicken & Egg Pictures; The William H. Donner Foundation; Hartley Film Foundation; Bertha Foundation; The Harnisch Foundation; Compton Foundation; and Lisa Philp; and members of The Better Angels Society: In spring 2021 the NYS legislature passed the bill, and it was signed into law in July 2021. You're looking ahead. DAVIES: And the crime that got you in was that you shot someone in retaliation for an attack on you and your sister, right? It's about a program in which professors of Bard College give college classes in six correctional institutions. Since its first cohort in 2001, BPI students have earned over 52,000 credits and more than 550 Bard College degrees. So you have this problem where you have to try to juggle these two realities, one of which is so beautiful and one of which is so dark and disgusting where you have to reveal your body and your orifices. BPI was proud to partner with College and Community Fellowships #TurnOnTheTapNY campaign to restore access to New Yorks state-level need-based student grants, the Tuition Assistance Program (TAP) for incarcerated students. DAVIES: Dyjuan Tatro, what was it like for you? And before the 1994 Clinton crime bill, there were college programs in almost every correctional facility in America. And Max Kenner, who is the founder and executive director of the program, is welcoming the new students. You know, Lynn Novick, I believe this project grew out of your own experience teaching a course, right? So you can be in class midway, and if the bell rings because the count was off or if there's a security problem, then you have to go back to your cells. They contribute to their communities in all the ways one might expect of any college graduate. College Behind Bars first premiered Nov. 25, 2019 on PBS and has since then become popular among Netflix audiences. WebCollege Behind Bars, which airs on PBS Monday and Tuesday night, offers TV audiences a rare window into the U.S. correctional system. But I thought what just happened in the auditorium was also reality. In early 2020 BPI began working with lawmakers to change Merit Board eligibility rules so that all incarcerated students can be eligible for early release based on earning college credits. So it totally enthralled me and motivated me to go after this education with pure zeal. I'm done. BPI alumni overwhelmingly go home to their communities and give back in ways that positively impact the lives of others. TATRO: No. PBS is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization. You know, I would go in and do all the work in a day or two, and the expectations were really, really low. I grew up in a single-parent household, the child of a disabled mother. Part 1: 'No One Ever Taught Me Any of That.'. "College Behind Bars" airs tonight and tomorrow night on PBS stations and will be available for streaming. And what's incredible is that you can also serve as tutors, so you're constantly working with other students who are trying to obtain their associate's degrees or bachelor's. So the program is 20 years old, and it started small. For now, the roughly 300 students taking . So I started hanging out in the streets and, you know, I had a crew of boys that I always hung out with. All these things are intersecting and overlapping. They work in business, the arts, and media; they attend graduate school; they have careers in human services. TATRO: You know, this - I'm the first person in my family who's ever gone to college. Few people know the joy of a free Sunday like Jule Hall. Bad Boys bakery was a social enterprise set up in HM Prison Brixton, in the UK. Reimagining the place of higher education. Following the development of regulations issued by the US Department of Education, incarcerated students who are enrolled in approved programs are expected to be eligible for Pell in the 2023-2024 academic year. So it has a ripple effect even beyond people applying to just - you know, the facilities where there is higher education have less incidence of violence and disruption and things like that. I recently binged born behind bars on A&E and was looking for any kind of update on these mamas/babies. . Justice in America Episode 29: Schools in Prison So when we start talking about what is best for people in prisons, Lynn said we should include them in that conversation. The faculty generally find this experience so energizing because of that exact thing - that they have to sort of - if they're teaching a course on the Bard campus and in BPI, they actually have to make the BPI version a bit harder, get more assignments and, you know, up the reading because the students are just so eager for the material and expect so much. Through the personal stories of the students and their families, the film reveals the transformative power of higher education and puts a human face on Americas criminal justice crisis. I have several friends who are still incarcerated that I spent my summers outside of class tutoring, and they're now in the program. I'm going to get emotional. Our guests today are Lynn Novick, who directed the documentary, and two graduates of the program, Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro. DAVIES: And your dad went through some really tough times, sent you to Korea when you were little 'cause he was trying to find a way to keep things together. Confronted with the "inhuman monotony" of life behind bars, Mr. Hall became a serious student, ultimately gaining admission to the Bard Prison Initiative, a competitive, full-time degree program run by Bard College. College Behind Bars, a four-part documentary directed by award-winning filmmaker Lynn Novick takes you on an intimate journey of a dozen BPI students who are earning their college degrees while incarcerated. Do they have a place as opposed to, you know, this really rigorous academic program? And then this changed in the . And so yeah, that is a huge impediment to trying to learn. This is when you, Sebastian Yoon, are speaking at the graduation. This film is about the transformative power of education while also confronting and challenging conventional thinking about the purpose of both education and incarceration. I can give them different types of advice. What Happens When Incarcerated People Get a World-Class Education? And there was a tremendous void. And, you know, spending time in the classrooms - as Sarah Botstein, the producer, and I did - I kept thinking, I wish I could go back to college and have this experience because it is - the classes are small. In December 2020 Congress finally restored Pell Grant eligibility as part of the omnibus spending and COVID relief bill. And then they're like, strip. DAVIES: Lynn Novick, give us the basics of the program. College Behind Bars, which airs on PBS Monday and Tuesday night, offers TV audiences a rare window into the U.S. correctional system. And so, you know, this experience has not only been personally rewarding and amazing for me. They study all the disciplines in the liberal arts. It's always a seminar style. The documentary prompts viewers to consider the importance of higher education in prison. You know, I am originally from Albany, N.Y. So I was charged at the age of 16 for manslaughter in the first degree, and I was sentenced to 15 years. Men and women earn college degrees - and a chance at new beginnings - while incarcerated. We will continue our conversation after a short break. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. But in reality, out here, the degrees matter. Tried as an adult for his involvement in the fight, Mr. Hall was convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison. I mean, I think, you know, having taught in the program myself, you walk into class, and the students are there. And I just want to - after the euphoria of graduation, I mean, you certainly - you know, you had this terrific asset, this college degree that a lot of ex-offenders don't. The Bard Prison Initiative Debate Union prepares for a debate against the University of Vermont in 2014. College Behind Bars (two hours) begins Monday at 9 p.m. with Parts 1 and 2 on WETA and MPT. I was - I had to show them that I was smart enough to be part of this group. And, you know, they're like, strip. And that's - Pell grants are supposed to be based on economic need. SERIOUS READING I dont watch TV. YOON: I never stopped being a student. Few completed high school; most earned their GED in prison. And, you know, we came to feel that it was important for them to - and they also felt it was important for them to explain themselves, how they see themselves, where they've been, where they are, through the lens of the education that they've been getting and their perspectives that have shifted over time. Jule Hall walks through Sunnyside, Queens, his neighborhood. I'm Terry Gross. And so, you know, I think we always need to consider that we're not talking about people in prison getting a degree in isolation, you know? And they are first eligible for an associate degree, and then if they can that, they can apply to get a bachelor's degree. And at the age of 10, my family - once my dad made enough money, we moved to Long Island. Part 2: 'I'm Trying to Get Home to My Family, Too.'. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. But I had no life experience to bring to that. I mean, there's - it's in the prison auditorium - right? I just committed a bad act. You got to go back to your - I guess to your cell - right? And I am the most proud father in the world. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. We should not expect that they are only capable of vocational training. You've just tried to add this show to My List. And what were the circumstances that that landed you in this prison? I think that realization came to me when I sat down and began writing my first cover letter and my first resume. You may change your parameters at any time using the link found at the bottom of every email. Adult learners are, you know, much more mature and have life experience. DAVIES: Wow, that's really remarkable. And that had been true for over a generation, and it was well understood and accepted that education was an essential part of criminal justice and of rehabilitation. So I know when I was in college and I was reading Greek tragedy or Shakespeare or, you know, classic texts, it was just an assignment to me. DAVIES: Wow, that's really remarkable. They come to us for essay-writing classes and math tutoring so that they can prepare to get into the program themselves. BPI alumni overwhelmingly go home to their communities and give back in ways that positively impact the lives of others. And then I came to crave it more and more. The series College Behind Bars aired on PBS on November 25 and 26 and is now available for free streaming on PBS.org through the end of January. However, I think that we also have to realize that we live in a country and we have an economy where the type of work that vocational training used to give you no longer exists. College Behind Bars is perhaps one of the best documentaries that Ive seen about criminal justice in the past 5 years. I don't see myself as a person. Since its first cohort in 2001, BPI students have earned over 52,000 credits and more than 550 Bard College degrees. YOON: Oh. Copyright 2019 NPR. Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; Meg & Tomas Bergstrand; Regina K. Scully; The Lise More, Funding for College Behind Bars is provided by Bank of America; PBS; Ford Foundation / JustFilms; National Endowment for the Humanities; You don't have the Internet. One of the toughest parts of living in Sunnyside, Mr. Hall said, is finding a vacant laundry machine. Sebastian Yoon, tell us a little about yourself. In the beginning, you don't even know how to use a comma. Skiff Mountain Films 2019 | info@skiffmountainfilms.com When incarcerated students from the Bard Prison Initiative (BPI) Debate Union beat a team from Harvard, their victory made headlines around the world. At BPI, we are committed to investing in people, reinventing institutions and making genuine education more accessible. The series follows the inmates as they give birth and raise their children behind bars. How can we have justice without redemption? And the Bard Prison Initiative has had 600 graduates be released over the last 20 years. Rodney, Sebastian and Giovannie embark on yearlong senior, The debate union faces Harvard. You know, it's interesting. More than 2 million Americans are incarcerated today, and many are looking for alternatives to prison and ways to help offenders rebuild their lives. And also with us are Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, two formerly incarcerated graduates of the Bard Prison Initiative. We can remove the first video in the list to add this one. A groundbreaking exploration of incarceration, injustice, race in America, and the transformative power of education. DAVIES: Tell us a little bit about the work you're doing. College Behind Bars is a production of Skiff Mountain Films and is directed by Lynn Novick. After returning home, BPI alumni become independent taxpaying citizens. My father was in Vietnam, came home drug-addicted and has never really recovered from that. And I started to respond with violence because I thought I had no other option. ). This can't just be watching movies and talking about it; you have to have a very sophisticated, demanding syllabus and assessments and writing assignments, and the students have to perform at the level that we expect for Bard College. DAVIES: You know, this is tough material in these classes. Bard Prison Initiative graduate Sebastian Yoon, featured in the new PBS documentary College Behind Bars, shares how BPI changed him and the Eastern Correctional Facility, where he was incarcerated until March. Ill get up and just sit in silence in my apartment.. James Wiley committed a heinous crime at 15 years of age. But the Allens still have mixed feelings about free degrees for inmates. If this kind of opportunity were widely available and the sort of foundational skills made possible, a lot more people could take advantage of it. 56 views, 2 likes, 3 loves, 4 comments, 0 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from New&Living Way Gospel Temple: Sunday service Who among us is capable of academic excellence? Ken Burns is executive producer. And they really love to engage the professors and each other, and that was true for every single class. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. It gave me the ability to put names to systems and things that had impacted my life. YOON: And it was a very interesting moment for me where I realized that the education that I was receiving in prison was the same education that I would receive had I gone to college out there. And I kind of froze in place and just looked around the room and just felt really, really inspired. College Behind Bars is the inspiring, emotional, and deeply human story of men and women struggling to earn college degrees while in prison for serious crimes. But the problem is that there can - bells can ring off in prison at any time. For the NFLs My Cause My Cleats campaign, Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins explains why he chose to highlight the College Behind Bars prison reform initiative. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This July we issued $650,000 in grants in the US and around the world. And they are ready, and they are prepared, and they've done all the reading, and they've read the footnotes, and they've read the ancillary reading, and they are - you know, you better know what you're doing. And in the context of the '90s and the tough-on-crime rhetoric and the super predator kind of, you know, demonization of people who have been convicted of crimes, as part of the Clinton crime bill, there was an amendment to withdraw eligibility for Pell grants for people who were in prison. How much noise is there, and does that make it hard to read, Dyjuan? Thank you so much for speaking with us. In 1994, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act made people in prison ineligible for Pell Grants. And then this changed in the '90s when we had the crime bill, right? And one of the things that I saw as I watched the four episodes - and this reminded me of - I taught middle school and high school many, many years ago. College Behind Bars is the inspiring, emotional, deeply human story of men and women struggling to earn college degrees while in prison for serious crimes. You have this big smile on your face when you're leaving the auditorium and the mess hall. Shot over four years in maximum and medium security prisons in New York State, the four-hour film takes viewers on a stark and intimate journey into one of the most pressing issues of our time our failure to provide meaningful rehabilitation for the over two million Americans living behind bars. The subjects and filmmakers reveal how the power of education changes lives. I have watched them leave prison and have to struggle in ways that I have not because I have had the privilege of a college education. Hold on. With Botstein onboard as a producer, Novick set out to direct what became the four-part PBS docuseries "College Behind Bars." Executive produced by Burns, the documentary examines mass. YOON: There's this moment where you walk past his door, and all you see is curtains and officers waiting in, like, rows. So I pedal pretty forcefully to get a workout. And so I was a little bit intimidated by that. This is FRESH AIR. In four years of study they become accomplished scholars, shatter stereotypes, reckon with their pasts, and prepare to return to society. And then you address your father directly. You are a prisoner and you are a student," Giovanni Hernandez tells Brut. Our guests are Lynn Novick, who directed the documentary, and Dyjuan Tatro and Sebastian Yoon, two graduates of the program. In 2016, BPI was proud to join the first cohort of sites receiving experimental eligibility through Second Chance Pell. He lives alone in an apartment in Sunnyside, Queens, which he chose for its proximity to the foundation, just across the East River. Also with us are Dyjuan Tatro and Sebastian Yoon, graduates of the program. This past is constantly being resurrected. In his senior project, BPI student Rodney Spivey-Jones 17 traces the long history of struggle against anti-Black racism in America. Theres not many bathtubs that can accommodate me, but I have a bathtub that partially can, as long as I put my legs up on the wall. And throughout this process, we're constantly talking with each other, helping each other out because on, like, the outside here, you have the Internet; our peers become the Internet. Ill take care of the preliminaries, brush my teeth, get dressed, and I shoot straight to the Starbucks two blocks away. And what the film shows and the work at BPI shows is that that cannot be more untrue. So, you know, Bard has some re-entry services, mainly job placement and career development. Let's get back to the interview FRESH AIR's Dave Davies recorded with Lynn Novick, director of the new PBS documentary "College Behind Bars," and Sebastian Yoon and Dyjuan Tatro, two graduates of the Bard Prison Initiative. So how long does this take? And then, you know, you're approaching this search area, and you're in this liminal place. So just to have normal kind of conversation, people have to literally yell back and forth. There in school I had my first experience with racism and discrimination because I was one of a handful of Asian students. Lynn Novick's 'College Behind Bars,' four-hour PBS documentary about the Bard Prison Initiative and the impact of educational programs as part of prison reform, is provocative and inspiring. The recent PBS series, College Behind Bars, chronicles Mr. Halls eventual parole and release in 2015. College Behind Bars is an intimate look at the lives and experiences of a dozen BPI students and their families that confronts . DAVIES: Lynn Novick, congratulations on the documentary. And, you know, one of the just greatest moments there is that when the BPI students were getting up to walk the stage, the president of the college, Leon Botstein, said - you know, he said these are some of our most distinguished and greatest students, and the whole student body stood and gave us a resounding round of applause. Max is the founder and executive director of the Bard Prison Initiative, and Rodney received his bachelor's degree from Bard College in 2017 through the Bard Prison Initiative. Episodes. NOVICK: You know, Sarah and I, when we got into the project, we were focusing on the transformational aspect of it, power of education, and what did it mean to get this education while in prison? And so it's a pioneering program, not innovative in the sense that there had been higher education in prison before but unusual in the sense that very few institutions were doing this at that time. GROSS: Lynn Novick speaking with Dave Davies. And I want to play a clip here. 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